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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject:
The maracyn plus cleared it all up. Thats the thing. It didn't cure my cases where the snails were already paralyzed. Though I had two (including the biopsied one) that were moving... very slowly.... that recovered. The purple who saw the vet, was worse than the other pink one... They were in the "not going to make it tank" and made it. I'm starting to wonder if the foot scraping the vet did (for a sample) might have helped her pull though. Couldn't have hurt (disease wise) having all the top layers removed.
I used the maracyn plus for 3 back to back rounds, with one water change of 25%. After 3 rounds, most of them had recovered or were on their way to recovery. The spots were lighter (though not gone) and the footies stopped shriveling. After the 3 rounds, I gave the tank a few days off. Sorry to say... i dont know how many. Then I did another round (maybe it was 2) to clear up the remaining cases. Finally, I followed up with more melafix (followign water change 25%, but I did not run carbon). I also keep the tanks as cool as possible. I left the window open at night and removed all the heaters.
At this point my main tank was all but better. Their was still some discoloration, but is was so light and improved daily, that I didn't do anything (cept worry). Took about another week for this to clear. The sick tank did not do as well. They certainly hung on, and some fought until the bitter end. I swear, one snail was completely paralyzed, but if you put her on a piece of collard green, so her head could reach it... she would eat.
I guess its possible this isn't bacteria, but my vet saw nothing to indicate fungus or parasites.
You might consider experimenting with other meds, particularly those safe for corals and inverts. Thats how I found Maracyn Plus. I just feel that perhaps yours has developed an immunity to it, from the dosing you did before.
I'd guess at this point... I'd also suggest cleaning the foot, possibly with a disinfectant (but I have no clue whats safe). I'd suggest looking into something like hydrogen peroxide and to see if it's safe for snails. Maybe swab with it diluted.
All of my adult snails were infected, all from the same tank. I had 18, and lost 9 (I think if memory serves right). I did keep my tanks and equipment seperate, so I have no clue how this got into my 10g where babies you recieved from that other party would have come from. The only thing that was transfered, were a few plants, which would have been rinsed in clean water first, but would not have been sterilized because I do not have fish (and previous to this snails) die, haven't had a single snail die since, not even from old age. The symptoms that our mutual contact had, were not the same as mine originally, and if I remember right, nor were yours at the first round. This is why I'm still not sure what we've got is the same, but many of the current symptoms are now equal. The one thing that baffles me is, I never had any swelling, egg related or mantle, during this whole thing. And my snails were always able to close up...
I have to wonder if its the same thing, and if it is... how it mutated to your orginal problem and then back to mine? It sure seems the same, but I do wonder... how it took this long to come about and end up where it started.
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